Competition Cams
Along
with Crane, the other heavyweight contender when it comes
to cam and valvetrain companies is CompCams. If you read any
of the print ads throughout the year from these companies
you'll see that these two companies love to take jabs at each
other's new products or marketing campaigns. Comp is pretty
proud of their cam advice, or "Cam Help" as they
have trademarked the service. They are also the only company
with a dedicated toll-free number for enthusiasts interested
in cam recommendations or technical help.
Competition
Cams Tech Line Evaluation
Tech Line Number: (800) 999-0853 Hours:
M-F 7am-8pm CST |
Hypothetical Engine |
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Time of Call |
Monday, 2:00pm PST |
Tuesday, 9:21am PST |
On Hold Duration |
8 min |
3min 29 sec |
Tech Operator Hospitality |
3 |
3 |
Camshafts
Recommended |
PN: Custom Hyd. Roll.
dur@.050: 232/240
valve lift: .565/.574
LSA: 110 deg.
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PN: 34-247-4
dur@.050: 230/236
valve lift: .562/.565
LSA: 110 deg.
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Remarks |
Quick response time. Good information
on website.
Rushed feeling. Single cam recommendation, no other
valve train advise offered. |
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*Hospitality Scale: Junkyard Dog 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 Good 'ol
Boy
Calling Comp Cams can yield some pretty
long hold times and even an occasional busy signal, but they
do have some useful on-hold entertainment. A Comp recording
tells you about new parts, promotes the Comp website, and
prompts you to have certain information ready for the tech
when they come online. On both calls our techs introduced
themselves by name. However, similar to Crane, we immediately
got the feeling that the guys were watching the clock. We
were asked the standard rapid fire questions, "what compression,
trans, gear, tire and weight", and a few seconds later
we received a cam recommendation. What did impress us is that
for the first motor, the 347, the tech came back with a custom
cam recommendation. He gave us the duration and lift specs,
and indicated this would be a custom grind which could be
ordered from him and would only take 3 days to process. Surprisingly
neither tech suggested lifters, springs or other valvetrain
components. Both Comp Cam technicians indicated the cams could
be ordered right there and then.
Lunati Cams
Lunati
is a legendary brand when it comes to camshafts. Their name
adorned the back window or rocker panel of many a circle track
and drag cars back in the 70's and 80's. However after founder
Joe Lunati turned the reigns over to Holley in 1998, Lunati
cams seems to have taken back seat to the aforementioned big-guns
of camshaft marketing. Perhaps 2005 is the comeback year for
Lunati. In 2003 they were joined by former Comp Cams cam designer,
and Ultradyne founder, Harold Brookshire. They have introduced
a new cam line called "Voodoo" cams, which claims
profiles never before utilized for flat-tappet camshafts.
We certainly don't doubt the talent at Lunati, however we
wonder why the Holley marketing team would launch a new camshaft
line and limit it just to hydraulic flat-tappet cams. Also
a big oversight is that the Australian alternative-fuel company
GasResearch has been calling their line of cams "Voodoo"
for a few years now.
Lunati Cams
Tech Line Evaluation
Tech Line Number: (901) 365-0950 Hours:
M-F 8am-5pm CST |
Hypothetical Engine |
 |
 |
Time of Call |
Monday, 2:13pm PST |
Tuesday, 9:11am PST |
On Hold Duration |
8 min 30 sec |
4 min |
Tech Operator Hospitality |
5 |
5 |
Camshafts
Recommended |
PN: Custom
Type: Hyd. Roller.
dur@.050: 232/240
valve lift: .565/.565
LSA: 110 deg.
-or-
PN: 51012
Type: Hyd. Roll.
dur@.050: 232/242
valve lift: .544/.560
LSA: 112 deg.
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PN: Custom
Type: Solid Flat. Tapp.
dur@.050: 244/244
valve lift: .608/.608
LSA: 110 deg.
-or-
PN: 41699
Type: Solid Flat. Tapp.
dur@.050: 244/251
valve lift: .608/.611
LSA: 110 deg.
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Remarks |
Poor on-hold experience. Marginal
information on website.
Enthusiastic operator. Recommended several cams
to select from, willing to talk and explain. |
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*Hospitality Scale: Junkyard Dog 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 Good 'ol
Boy
When you call Lunati you'll be calling the 901 area code,
which is Tennessee, where Lunati started thirty some years
ago. That's a plus because at least you know you'll be talking
to someone at the cam company rather than the carb company.
Unfortunately the witch doctors haven't brewed up a modern
day phone system at the plant. An operator answers the call
and after you ask for the tech line she warns you that the
phone will continuously ring until one of the techs answers
it. We listened to the constant ring for 8 minutes and 30
seconds before we got a human on the line. Our interaction
with the tech made up for a lot however. The tech seemed genuinely
interested in what we were building,
and in fact sounded like a car guy more so then a trained
operator. We didn't feel rushed when asked what the key specs
of the motors were, and he engaged us with genuine enthusiasm
about how strong the motor would run and sound with this cam
or that cam. Surprisingly though on neither two calls did
the tech mention the new Voodoo cam line. This is probably
because for the 347 he realized this was a roller block. For
the 460 call we deliberately acted interested in the Voodoo
cam line, however he suggested that a solid flat-tappet would
make more power for our motor. He even told us while the cam
could be ordered from Lunati directly, we'd save some money
through a retailer because Lunati does not charge extra for
custom grinds. We appreciated the honesty and integrity from
the Lunati tech, after all he could have pushed a cam on us
just to promote the new product line. Instead he used his
experience to suggest what he felt would be best for our combination.
Ultradyne/Bullet Racing Cams
Perhaps
the smallest of the cam companies we called was Ultradyne.
However hardly a newcomer, Ultradyne likely has the best reputation
amongst hard-core engine builders as "the" custom
cam company. This is certainly due to the fact that Ultradyne's
founder, Harold Brookshire pioneered cam designs which led
to Daytona wins in the 70's and 80's. (In 2003 Harold joined
Lunati as their Chief Cam Designer.)
It's really only in the past few years that custom grinding
has become a household phrase. This is certainly due to the
large cam companies making their lobe profiles available in
their catalogs, and bringing prices on custom grinds to almost
par with off-the-shelf sticks. As a result, there are many
people in the late-model Mustang crowd who claim to be cam-gurus
and have the masses fooled into thinking their specs will
significantly out perform any of the catalog cams.
The fact still remains that designing the right cam requires
experience and knowledge. The second you get on the phone
with Tim at Ultradyne you realize the difference between what
goes into a real custom cam and the one someone's friend regurgitated.
Ultradyne
Cams Tech Line Evaluation
Tech Line Number: (662) 893-8022 Hours:
M-F 8am-5pm CST |
Hypothetical Engine |
 |
 |
Time of Call |
Monday, 2:35pm PST |
Thursday, 1:51pm PST |
On Hold Duration |
busy signal, then 2 min. |
None. |
Tech Operator Hospitality |
4 |
4 |
Camshafts
Recommended |
PN: Custom
Type: Solid Roller
dur@.050: 245/253
valve lift: .621/.621
LSA: 108 deg.
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PN: 280/288 H12 460
Type: Hyd. Flat Tappet
dur@.050: 223/231
valve lift: .534/.559
LSA: 112 deg.
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Remarks |
Website is so awful it is actually
soothingly funny.
Most engaging and informative tech operator. No
rush, willing to explain and educate. |
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Make no mistake though, calling Ultradyne
is similar to calling your favorite speed shop. The phone
seems to be answered by whomever hears it ringing. It might
be the guy you need to talk to, or it might be the a woman
in the back-office. Who knows, but ultimately you'll get to
the right person. Both times we called, we got very helpful
guys on the phone. We hesitate to call them "techs"
because in reality they are probably the very guys running
the small company and designing the cams. Ultradyne is the
clear winner when it comes to asking the most sincere and
in-depth questions regarding our car and motor. We were asked
what brand heads, what valve sizes and even flow numbers.
The biggest surprise was the mechanical roller recommendation
for our 347, which came with several minutes of explanation
on why this decision will yield more power. We spent over
10 minutes on the phone with the Ultradyne tech and felt he
would have spent as long as it took to understand our needs,
or help us understand his cam recommendation.
Ultradyne doesn't really have any part numbers, and pretty
much every cam is ground to order. You buy from them direct
and it takes a couple days to get the cam cut and sent out.
After our first call for the 347 motor we thought these guys
might be prone to recommending pretty big cams. However we
were pleasantly surprised when we called regarding the 460
and they recommend a mild duration cam that would "be
great for on and off the throttle driving, but still yield
that nice cam sound at idle."
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